Your question: I need revision Rhinoplasty. What would you change in my nose? Photo
I had rhinoplasty done in November 2014. I have been very patient about the results by now, but I am not happy with my new nose. I think that my nasal base is too wide for my face, the tip is overprojected and I hate the C-form of the bridge. Besides, the bridge looks so flat and wide. How would you improve my nose? What would you correct? Thank you very much for your time

Dr. Denenberg's answer: The projection, the length, and lower the height of the bridge a teeny bit more.
From your photos in your previous post, it does appear that the nose looked nice when the splint came off, but that's often the way of noses problems are masked by the early swelling.
See the Web reference link, just below my response. I made a computer morph of one of your photos, and an animation of the morph, showing the changes that I would make. Yes, your tip needs to be deprojected -- brought closer to your face -- but it needs to be elevated, too, so the nose doesn't look too long. Your nose looks a little scoopy, not because the bridge of the nose was taken down too far, but because the tip is still too projecting, so it LOOKS scoopy, although the bridge is in pretty good position. You'll see in the animation that I didn't build up the bridge at all, but the bridge looks better because the tip comes closer to your face.
When a large bump is taken down in a primary operation, it's necessary to move the bones closer to each other, and perhaps that part of the operation didn't succeed so well, making the bones still appear wide. So the bones could be moved closer to each other again.
You should understand that the changes I demonstrated in the morph require advanced techniques, techniques that most plastic surgeons cannot handle. Be sure to read the section in the Web reference link on how to stay out of trouble while searching for a rhinoplasty surgeon.

 

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Plain talk about picking a plastic surgeon for your first-time or revision rhinoplasty.

I do lots and lots of revision rhinoplasties, and I'll try to give you some advice here, to maximize the chances that you'll be happy after surgery, and to minimize the chances you'll need a revision.

Important!!  How to tell whether your consultation was acceptable:

Photos.  If a surgeon doesn't show you before and after photographs, scratch him off of your list. Period. No exceptions. Deal-breaker.

You pick a surgeon primarily from his before and after photos. Diplomas, board certifications, hospital affiliations, academic appointment, and even reputation tell you nothing: a surgeon is never tested for his skill, his artistic eye, the quality of his outcomes, or even whether he cares that his patients are happy.

You must see photos of other patients who had some features similar to your nose. For example, if your nose has a wide and drooping tip, don't accept profile-only photos of patients who had a hump carved down. You can't see the width of the tip on a profile photo.

Revision nose operations are much more difficult than first-time operations, so if you are consulting a surgeon about a revision operation, you must see photos of his revision patients.

If you see the surgeon's photos, but you don't love them, scratch him off your list. You want to use a surgeon whose work you like. Don't assume that he'll do great on you when he didn't do great on the other people.

Communication. If the doctor treats you disrespectfully, scratch him off your list. If he won't patiently listen to what you want for your nose, same thing. How will he know how to make you happy if he won't hear what you want for your nose?

If he conducts the consultation from behind his desk and doesn't examine your nose, deal-breaker. If it's the nurse and not the surgeon who conducts the consultation, run away fastest. All due respect to the nurse, she doesn't know what's possible and what isn't. If the plan is to see the surgeon for the first time on the morning of surgery, deal-breaker. For sure.

Computer morphing. If the surgeon doesn't do computer morphing of your nose, scratch him off your list. The morphing is crucial, so the surgeon can prove to you that he understands exactly what your goals are. Also, if the surgeon recommends some changes that you hadn't thought of, you need to see the morphs, so you can see whether you like those changes.

Your intuition. If your gut tells you "no," don't use the surgeon. Don't ever use a surgeon only because you know him, or your kids know him, or he lives on your street, or your primary care doctor referred you to him, or he did your breasts, or your tonsils, or your wisdom teeth, or you saw his advertisement, or his awards.

I hear these stories all the time from my revision rhinoplasty patients. You must do your own evaluation of any surgeon you visit. And by "evaluation," again, we're talking mostly about seeing his photos and seeing how well he communicates with you. Don't bother checking the surgeon's licensure and board certification and hospital affiliations and all that; it'll just distract you from what's important.

Conclusion. The fact is, the great majority of plastic surgeons who perform rhinoplasty shouldn't be doing the operation. It's an incredibly difficult procedure, technically demanding, requiring experience, skill, judgment, an artistic eye, an exceptional level of communication and thoughtfulness, and a rare level of empathy and caring for the patient. No hospital board protects you by judging the quality of a surgeon's rhinoplasties and prohibiting him from operating if he's terrible. It's the wild, wild west out there, folks.

 

More plain talk: should you let your primary surgeon perform your revision?

Rhinoplasty is by far the most difficult of the facial plastic surgery operations. And revision rhinoplasty is ten times more difficult than a first-time operation.

First, you need to consider whether things didn't turn out great on your first operation because of some unusual circumstance with the surgery or the healing, or whether things went wrong because your doctor was not expert in rhinoplasty in the first place.

Evaluate your surgeon again. Read the section above, on how to evaluate a surgeon for a rhinoplasty. If you saw lots of before and after photos of your surgeon's other patients who got excellent results, in noses at least somewhat similar to yours, then your surgeon probably knows what he is doing, and you can consider letting him perform your revision. Even the very best surgeon has the occasional disappointing result.

However, if, on looking back, you decide that you did not do excellent research on your original surgeon -- perhaps you relied on a referral, or on his board certification, without being able to see his photos -- then you probably should not have him perform the revision. If he couldn't get you close to your goal the first time because of a lack of skill, he will have no chance at all on the second try, and then you'll be in the tough position of looking for a third operation.

 

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